| 13.04.2008 |
| VanceS contributed 126
messages, 7 emotes, 1 private emote during 92 minutes. 2008.04.13 04:59:46 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS somersaults in VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. VanceS somersaults in VanceS gets up, looks around VanceS . o O ( dark in here, should I switch on the lights? ) VanceS suspects there may be others present ... HalaH joined the room. VanceS: Hi Hala HalaH: Hi Vance HalaH: Hi James,Rick VanceS: James and Rick are still asleep I think VanceS pokes Rick to see if he can get any reaction AlleneH joined the room. VanceS: Hi Allen VanceS: Allene HalaH: Vance, is it normal to hate a document you sepend too much time and effort on? VanceS: are you having a problem with yours? AlleneH: Hi everybody HalaH: I lost focus on the document. VanceS: I usually hate it until I get to a point where it starts to come together HalaH: As if sth is pulling me away from it. VanceS: I'll have to read it again and help out LawanD joined the room. VanceS: Hi Allene VanceS: and here is Lawan HalaH: I devoted today to have it all together..Give me today and I will email you :over to you" HalaH: Hi allen.Lawan AlleneH: HalaH - are you talking about a research type paper? HalaH: Yes VanceS: Ok, Hala, no problem, I"ll work on the latest version AlleneH: I know what you mean - my master's final project has been "in progress" for over a year VanceS: Hala and Lawan are writing about CALL in Sudan and Nigeria respectively AlleneH: Ugh! HalaH: When do you start to hate your research,ALLEN? LawanD: Hi everyone LawanD: Hi Vance LawanD: I'm here HalaH: Welcome Lawan VanceS: yep, you made it AlleneH: I think at the point where I was trying to put it all together and bring the ideas to some cohesiveness VanceS: Hala in Sudan, Lawan in Nigeria, me in Abu Dhabi HalaH: Strange to see you Sunday morning HalaH: Lawan AlleneH: Cool - I'm in Wisconsin LawanD: Yes Hala HalaH: Viva technology LawanD: today I'm in tapped in HalaH: First time Lawan? LawanD: yes VanceS: people from all over the world AlleneH: Well, I just logged in to keep my account current - I need to spend more time here - great resources - people and info :-) LawanD: Hi James VanceS: what is your MA on Allene? LawanD: where from? HalaH: Allen is from Wisconsin AlleneH: I'm working on a professional development plan to improve technology integration in an isolated elementary school HalaH: Allene LawanD: what about Rick HalaH: Interesting! AlleneH: need to get teachers to self-assess and then work on a plan to assist them in moving forward VanceS: neat Allene, have you been listening to worldbridges.net VanceS: checked out k-12 online? AlleneH: No I haven't - I work full-time and have four young boys - busy! AlleneH: I'll check it out, though AlleneH: Thanks for the idea VanceS: both are recordngs you can download to an ipod or similar and tune in while commuting AlleneH: love my iPod! LawanD: proffessional development seems to be a buzz word today VanceS: I've just recorded a presentation on teacher autonomy AlleneH: The challenge is meeting the need as the need arises and getting those who have lots of classroom experience (i.e. closer to retirement) to look at new ways to provide the same information to students VanceS: i figure that precedes learner autonomy NinaTL joined the room. VanceS: http://tinyurl.com/468qrp if you are interested VanceS: Hi Nina HalaH: Vance's gave an excellent presenation yesterday.Vance could you post the link? AlleneH: Add to that - limited resources - BUT - technology can sure help VanceS: just did HalaH: right NinaTL: Hi guys HalaH: Hi Nina NinaTL: Nice to see you here, Hala! it's unusual! HalaH: Yes. AlleneH: Hi Nina VanceS: Hala was just saying it's unusual to see Lawan here HalaH: I took the day off to work on a document VanceS: This is webheads normal meeting time btw, each sunday noon GMT HalaH: Lwan's first time to TI. Lawan first time Sunday morning NinaTL: Hi Allene AlleneH: Well - I've got to run - children will be up soon. Thanks for the tips! Have a great day! NinaTL: I see Lawan is from Nigeria! AlleneH left the room (signed off). NinaTL: James, have you jsut joined TI today? NinaTL: *just HalaH: Lawan, I think you may interested in this work. It is about ICT in Sudan, part of a survey in all African countries NinaTL: I have never met Lawan before HalaH: Wow! Too long.Let me shrten it VanceS: I could make you viewers of each others' google docs if you want me to NinaTL: Vance, how was England? Are you back home? LawanD: Nina is nice meeting you NinaTL: Likewise HalaH: thanks to tinyurl LawanD: where from HalaH: http://tinyurl.com/4lc6ky NergizK joined the room. NinaTL: Hi, Nergiz VanceS: just spent two day in UK Nina LawanD: Nergiz VanceS: Hi Nergiz NergizK: Hi Nina, hi everybody HalaH: Vance, Lawan is having a problem to access Google Docs.Is it still there, Lawan? HalaH: Hi Nergiz NergizK: Hi Vance, hi Hala, Lawan, James :-) LawanD: yes thats true VanceS: do you have a gmail acct Lawan JamesH left the room. NergizK: Hala, good to meet you finally. I've heard and read a lot about you :-) NinaTL: Vance, is it necessary to have a gmail account to use GoogleDocs? a Google account maybe? LawanD: yes I do have Gmail RitaZ joined the room. HalaH: Good to meet you too, Nergiz RitaZ hugs everybody hi NergizK: Hi Rita HalaH hugs Rita back LawanD: Vance I have Gmail account VanceS: it helps to have a gmail acct VanceS: Hi Rita RitaZ: what's up today? VanceS hugs Rita LawanD: Hi Rita NinaTL hugs Rita warmly NinaTL: I miss you, Rita!!! VanceS: I think we could almost link arms around the world today NinaTL: How was your trip home? NergizK: Lawan, we haven't met yet. I'm from Turke y LawanD: thats right, Vance NinaTL: No Aussies, no East Asians HalaH: I became a fan of Goole alerts, but what I don't know is how/for what to use Google Reader NergizK: And a bit of me is German RitaZ: was ok, but VERY long, 34 hs from home to home!!!! NinaTL: If I start using Google Reader does that duplicate my bloglines? NergizK: Google Reader saves you time, Hala HalaH: Ice Liebe Dich LawanD: Thats great. I'm from Nigeria NinaTL: Ouch. 34 hours is a LONG trip HalaH Hala only words in German NergizK is laughing NergizK: Good words, Hala RitaZ: yeah, Nina, was really tired HalaH: No wiat NinaTL: but they can get you into trouble f2f when used with the wrong person! HalaH: WolksWagen( meaning people's car) LawanD: technology has made things easy VanceS: what took 34 hours? HalaH: Pronouced "V" NergizK: Volkswagen, yes. But I've never owned one NinaTL: I had a nice visit with my cousin and a great bus ride home on Sunday RitaZ: my trip back home, Vance VanceS: and regarding google reader and bloglines ConstanGst1 joined the room. VanceS: by plane rita?? NinaTL: Hello, Constan? Constance? RitaZ: home to home I mean VanceS: I had two flights, 7 hours each NinaTL: and some hours waiting in airports I guess HalaH: I did.Twice.My favourite. 167 and 172 Brazilian.Now, still VW, but Skoda HalaH: lol LawanD: thats a long journey NinaTL: And how long does it take you to get home from the airport? VanceS: Google reader does about the same as Bloglines NergizK: Nina, do you mean with get you in trouble "Ich liebe dich""? RitaZ: tell us about your pres in England,Vance NinaTL: Yes, Nergiz ConstanGst1 left the room. LawanD: Did Hala told you her experience coming to Nigeria? VanceS: I pretty much gave my england presentation again yesterday but recorded it NinaTL: What is it about, vance? HalaH: Cnstant hates VW, I think.:-) LawanD: on her way back it was 20hours journey!! VanceS: interesting thing in UK was that people didn't know what was RSS, aggregation, tagging RitaZ: ah, was it the one which I didnt manage to attend, , at dawn this time? HalaH: Cris is doing a great job in UK teaching them VanceS: my presentation is here http://tinyurl.com/468qrp RitaZ: thanks, Vance VanceS: incidentally one week from today NergizK: Vance, I'm not surprised. in Germany I was teaching Teenagers and they didn'T know about blogs, Skype, podcasts, etc. It made me feel good though VanceS: we are invited to present on Writingmatrix RitaZ: we tend to overestimate English people..., me, at least...;-) HalaH: Vance, yesterday I told teachers with me at a workshop about your pp showing them that it was early morning and still you can attend from Khartoum LawanD: whats that Vance? VanceS: I'm looking for the announcement NinaTL: I will check later RitaZ: so what about the Writingmatrix next? HalaH: Vance presentation,Lawan LawanD: at? NinaTL: Besides Graham, Dennis N and otehr expats, do we have any webheads in England? not counting Cris HalaH: IT is not opening, even with clicking Ctrl HalaH: IATEFL Exter,UK HalaH: No, I mean at AbuDhabi HalaH: Yesterday morning HalaH Vance secretary here LawanD: Hala are talking about Vance presentation? HalaH: Lawan. do you know to detach this chat window? LawanD: no HalaH: Ooops.have to excuse for minutes.Nina, can you lead him to it? VanceS: http://www.lancelotschool.com/Terminkalender/details/EVO-Sessions-2008---The-Writing-Matrix-or-How-bloggers-connect-their-brain-neurons HalaH: brb VanceS: that's the event next week NinaTL: Lawan, do you see the Actions menu to the upper left of the chat screen? LawanD: yes i do Nina NinaTL: Select "Detach" NinaTL: You may need to scroll down RitaZ: great, Vance, can we join you? NinaTL: You can use the same window to enlarge the type VanceS: please do Rita LawanD: Wow Yes I did LawanD: its bigger NinaTL: I can't stay this morning. I have a houseguest who will be getting up soon, a friend visiting from Paris! NinaTL: But it was nice to chat with you all even if for only a few minutes LawanD: oh you have a visitor? NinaTL: I hope you all have a nice week! NergizK: Same Nina. Was good to see you LawanD: thanks Nina NinaTL: Yes, a dear friend from my past (used to live in Paris) LawanD: have a nice weekend too RitaZ: have a nice day, Nina, miss you!! NinaTL: She is an English teacher and is here in Washington with a group of her students NinaTL: Gracias, Rita! NinaTL: I miss you too! NinaTL left the room (signed off). VanceS: woops, back channeling VanceS: missed Nina NergizK: Vance, I've read about Claire receiving an award in NY. Is that ClaireBSiskin? VanceS: I thnk so VanceS: where did you read it VanceS: maybe it's at the tesol site NergizK: No, somebody mentioned in in YG NergizK: but I'm getting confused with all the names. So I thought I'll better ask someone before congratulating her :-) DaveKe joined the room. HalaH: back VanceS: I just googled this http://callisediting.wikispaces.com/ DaveKe: hello all LawanD: Vance, I have been trying to introduce my students to use web 2.0 HalaH: Buthave to go too.Kids at home Sunday HalaH: I will leave the window open so I will know what I missed. JamesH joined the room. VanceS: ok Hala DaveKe: a question for the webheads VanceS: wb James JamesH left the room. VanceS: Hi Dave HalaH: Fighting started again on a magazine. NergizK: Is it weekend for you Hala? LawanD: Hala going? RitaZ: hi, Dave HalaH: See you guys HalaH: nice chatting with you RitaZ: nye, Hala! HalaH: bye NergizK: See you, was nice meeting you Hala VanceS: Dave is in China, so we've filled in another part of the world now LawanD: bye hala DaveKe: I am workjing on developing an online course and need your opinions RitaZ: wow, Dave, working there? LawanD: Dave you are welcome NergizK: That's good. Now, it's only Australia missing? VanceS: I think we could link arms if we bypass Oz NergizK: Lawan, you said you've been trying to introduce Web 2.0 to your students. How is it going? LawanD: yeh what about south America VanceS: Rita is in SA RitaZ: I am from Argentina, Lawan DaveKe: for a Platform software package to deliver the lessons, can TI work well enough or do I need to use WebCT or Blackboard? VanceS: Why not use Moodle? VanceS: or a wiki? LawanD: ok thats great, the world is here minus Australia VanceS: or Nicenet DaveKe: I downloaded Moodle but have trouble ghetting around RitaZ: Nicenet is a good option, so I heard at a presentation in TESOL NergizK: Dave, I'm also interesteed in this. I have the same "problem" at the moment RitaZ: anybody used it? LawanD: Nergiz, my students are not too conversant with the computer NergizK: Nicenet looks very boring and limited to me . I'm very visual BarbaraS1 joined the room. VanceS: I haven\t used nicenet for a long time but I had an acct mabye 10 years ago RitaZ: Lawan, its my problem every year, so I start with a classblog BarbaraS1: hi all NergizK: Hi Barbara VanceS: Hi Barbara RitaZ: hi, Barbara DaveKe: I am proposing an online course for foodservice workers who need to get sanitation certification for the local board of health to show that they are knowledgeable in food safey LawanD: yes, you are right I'm also starting with a classwiki LawanD: Hi Barbara DaveKe: I want to make it as simple as possible to navigate a computer for the novice VanceS: I guess Lawan and Dave have similar requirements RitaZ: it depende if you want it more collaborative, or need more control LawanD: yes Vance you are right NergizK: I started with GoogleGroups /GoogleDocs, a class blog and WiziQ for synchronous meetings RitaZ: I learnt Nicenet is less complex than Moodle, fulfils almost same requirements, is free VanceS: dimdim has just announced, or been announced DaveKe: My plan is to utilize TI for discussions and posting of opinions and a program called Quiz Lab or Quiz Star to test knowledge anmd keep grades RitaZ: would give it a try for distance learning LawanD: dimdim, yes I just read it on weabheads VanceS: Nicenet hosts a service, you host Moodle on your own server NergizK: Haven't heard of it yet RitaZ: right, Vance, so its easier NergizK: That's why I don't use Moodle (but would like to) LawanD: Sorry, I will be away for some minutes, Vance I will get back to you later NergizK: Can you really compare Nicenet and Moodle? VanceS: Nicenet is bare bones LMS VanceS: functional but not flexible VanceS: kind of like Blackboard VanceS: Moodle has many possibilities, much more flexible VanceS: but you might have to host it yourself DaveKe: but black board and WebCT both cost bucks RitaZ: never used either, Nergiz, but I heard Nicenet is a simpler version, free, gives basic possibilities for distance educ NergizK: I have worked with Moodle (as a student) and I have signed up for a nicenet account. Didn't like nicenet. VanceS: Yes, BB, which bought WebCT, is a dinosaur now DaveKe: I went into Moodle last nigh and could navigate very well ClaireB joined the room. VanceS: Hi claire, and congratulations RitaZ hugs Clari dearly ClaireB: hi guys DaveKe: correction ... couldn't navigate well ClaireB hugs those who want to be hugged ClaireB: for what/ DaveKe hugs back BarbaraS1: hugs claire VanceS: Did you win an award at TESOL? ClaireB: last week's news :-) NergizK: Hi Claire. RitaZ: congrats, Clarita!!! ClaireB: vance, how was the presentation yesterday ClaireB: hi nergiz ClaireB: hi rita; what a treat to finally meet you f2f NergizK: Congratulations anyway, Claire. I only read about it yesterday VanceS: presentation is at http://tinyurl.com/468qrp VanceS: yes, some people are only finding out THIS week claire VanceS: not all of us have iPhones PattiGH joined the room. ClaireB: hmm, can I help it if my husband is an early adopter? VanceS: was it the (let me guess) VanceS: the D. Scott Enright TESOL Interest Section Service Award? NergizK: I'd love to have an iphone as a Mac-enthusiast. I need to replace my Palm. ClaireB: thanks vance. i felt very honored because it was from the CALL folks NergizK: That sounds great ClaireB: nergiz, actually, my palmpilot would do some things that i can't do with the iphone VanceS: ok, round of applause for claire ClaireB: no device is perfect VanceS: clap clap RitaZ: clsp clsp clsp ClaireB: thanks; you're embarrassing me NergizK: clap, clap..... RitaZ: ssssssss NergizK: I'm sure it's well-deserved VanceS: I'm positive it is ClaireB: lots other people deserved it too VanceS: we were talking about it before you arrived claire ClaireB: thanks for the link vance; I'll give it to my CALL students NergizK: Barbara, are you the Barbara from two days ago in Elluminate? VanceS: and I googled claire siskin tesol award ClaireB: rick, it was good to see you at tesol, but it was only for a fleeting moment VanceS: and I came up with http://callisediting.wikispaces.com/ ClaireB: and it came up in google? VanceS: yep, probably shouldn't be public VanceS: but it's a great resume of your work ClaireB: hmm. NergizK: It's not really public, Vance. If click on the link it requests a password ClaireB: greg kessler said that he had to write something in support of the award, and i teased him by saying, 'and i still got it??" VanceS: ha ha (and didn't ask me for a password) NergizK -( VanceS: but it's great when good work is recognzed NergizK: Maybe it's because I'm not a TESOL member ClaireB: lots of call people do amazing work, including several people who are here this morning BarbaraS1: yees, sorry, i am the Barbara from Elluminate ClaireB: it's an amazing group that I'm proud to be part of BarbaraS1: Vance's wife, Bobbi ClaireB: ah, bobbi; I didn't know it was you! NergizK: Ah, nice to see you again , then Barbara BarbaraS1: ty nice to see you too NergizK checking out dimdim... VanceS: should we give it a spin? ClaireB: what is dimdim VanceS: it's like WiZiQ VanceS: had its growing pains NergizK: I've only now heard about it, Clire VanceS: but apparently is coming out again NergizK: I wonder why these tools are offered for free.. NergizK: How do these people make money (WiziQ, etc.) NergizK: There are no ads either ClaireB: sometimes they start off free and later charge money. like wimba NergizK: So, get hooked people first and then charge for the service? ClaireB: exactly RitaZ: yeah, Nergiz VanceS: how about Nicenet, free forever RitaZ: no idea DaveKe left the room. NergizK: I think they are probably sponsored by some educational institution or somethign lke that NergizK: My guess ClaireB: nicenet started with a grant, i think VanceS: I know DimDim has a business plan VanceS: their chatroom has limited access, the free one ClaireB: what is dimdim, and what is the address? VanceS: only a few seats VanceS: http://www.dimdim.com NergizK: I see SarahEF joined the room. NergizK: Like Elluminate ClaireB: hi sarah SarahEF left the room. VanceS: who's going to start a session and invite us? RitaZ: Vance, would you suggest DimDim for distance learning? LawanD: back JamesH joined the room. VanceS: let's try and see Rita? NergizK: I can't afford to pay for any services at the moment because I'm offering very inexpensive courses RitaZ: ok NergizK: Do you want to try dimdim now? VanceS: yes, start a meeting RitaZ: I am trying.. ClaireB: have you guys tried http://www.orgoo.com/Home NergizK: What's that Claire? ClaireB: it's a video conferencing site BarbaraS1: it's free as well? RitaZ: Ive just opened an account , pl, put up your email addresses to invite you now NergizK: Ah, OK. Now, which one to choose? RitaZ: at DimDim VanceS: vancestev@gmail.com NergizK: OK, Rita. here is mine: k.ergiz@yahoo.co.uk JamesH left the room. VanceS: orgoo looks like a site to integrate all IM and email accts BarbaraS1: bobbi_stevens@hotmail.com NergizK: Maybe everybody has to sign up first VanceS: it says orgoo is in beta and not public yet ClaireB: orgoo also has free videoconferencing ClaireB: yeah, but people are using it. i was in a demo yesterday NergizK: Do you ever read the "Terms of Use" when signing up? ClaireB: nah ClaireB: but maybe i should NergizK -) VanceS: terms of us who cares ClaireB: is there a meeting already in progress at dimdim? NergizK: In the past I read them very carefully but now I don't NergizK: I think Rita is trying to invite us ClaireB: how? BarbaraS1: I know, i just trust them, that there arent' any surprises RitaZ: installing a plug in for invites BarbaraS1: I got mine NergizK: I don't really trust them, Barbara. Have read and watched about Facebook accounts BarbaraS1: i guess you are right VanceS: ah facebook http://del.icio.us/vancestevens/facebook LawanD: I have just signed into dimdim ClaireB: rita, invite us, invite us,. my email is cbsiskin@pitt.edu MichelleJW joined the room. VanceS: dim dim looks nice VanceS: so far ClaireB: hi michelle VanceS: I can see Rita's desktop on Dim Dim VanceS: but don't see how to chat RitaZ left the room (signed off). VanceS: she is inviting claire now MichelleJW left the room (signed off). LawanD: i'm there but I couldn't access the chat room BarbaraS1: i'm in the room, but I cant hear anything and I'm getting a lot of things on the screen RitaZ joined the room. RitaZ: was suddenly kicked off :-( ClaireB: looks like dimdim has an open source edition -- but nothing for macs RitaZ: Vance; iseem to have been kicked off from DomDim, is my name still there? ClaireB: how do i know when i have been invited? what is the name of the meeting room? BarbaraS1: i see your name, mine and Vance's still RitaZ: I invited you, Clari, then off i went, dunno why VanceS: I can read this in the dim dim window VanceS: but I can't see how to talk ClaireB: i hope it's not my fault, lol VanceS: my video device is malfunctioning RitaZ: will try to get back VanceS: rita has left RitaZ: yeah, Vance I was disconnected RitaZ: for some reason, but I had the mic icon on my left, can you send me the url back? BarbaraS1: yes, it says that you left the meeting NergizK: But we can still see your desktop, Rita ClaireB: what is the name of the meeting room? NergizK: Claire, it's ritaz RitaZ: weird. Nergiz ClaireB: thanks, nergiz VanceS: I've signed in NergizK: Becareful Rita, we can see what your doing on your computer :-) LawanD: I have to go NergizK: Pity you can't join the dimdim sessoin Lawan. Was nice meeting you LawanD: Vance I will be expecting your response VanceS: ok, Lawan, will get back to you soon LawanD: yes Nergiz, I have a meeting to attend VanceS: is there a meeting on? VanceS: (I mean in DIm Dim) VanceS: or shall I start one? LawanD: not in dimdim, but in dimlife ClaireB: i tried to join "ritaz" and it said that the meeting has not been scheduled yet, or something like that VanceS: shall I start one? ClaireB: sure ClaireB: and tell us the name BarbaraS1: yes, i get that message too RitaZ: I opened a room, Vance, but when tried to invite Clari I was disconnected from DimDim VanceS: ok, "m starting one at vances RitaZ: though my desktop seems to be there for you to share, Im off!! NergizK: Yes, I know, this shouldn't happen automatically VanceS: I have to install a plugin RitaZ: yep RitaZ: now I cannot go back to the room I opened PattiGH left the room (signed off). NergizK: Yes, Rita. you were disconnected but your desktop was still visible BarbaraS1: yes, i think that was your desktop we were all seeing NergizK: Should definitely not be the case BarbaraS1: I was not sure what it was RitaZ: strange BarbaraS1: but i could see tappedin, and some icons NergizK: Yes, what you were typing in TI and then SLanguages 2008 VanceS: I have to restart firefox to install the plugin RitaZ: and now? still on? VanceS: this will boot me from tapped in LawanD left the room (signed off). VanceS: so I'll be back in a second VanceS left the room (signed off). 2008.04.13 06:32:27 Signoff
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